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That's right. I learned on a blackboard. An actual blackboard at the front of the room with erasers that the teachers would throw at us if we weren't paying attention. And if you ducked fast enough you could get the kid behind you who was NOT in trouble, smacked in the face with a chalk eraser! I remember chalk, big black erasers that would need to be knocked together to knock the dust off of them.

I remember the three-line thing where the teachers would stick three pieces of white chalk in to draw a line across the board and then take the eraser and erase out small sections of the middle line to make their 'dotted lines' for writing courses. I remember classes where the teachers actually had the ability to teach the course, and were not being stifled down with computer courses that teach kids only to memorize and spit back by rote.

I remember overhead projectors coming into play in my later junior high years, but never, and I mean NEVER, did I see a computer inside of a classroom. When I got to high school, the library had a small (6 machines), "computer lab" and at that point we were expected to have our papers typed up. We had the option of typing our assignments up on either the computer or a typewriter at home. It was hard to get time on one of the computers in the library, so most of us did them on typewriters at home!

Anyone else remember this? LOL

I got thinking about this with my child's open-house at the beginning of this school year, and this teacher going on and on about how "great" this "new" teaching program is, and how the children all learn on the computer. And I remember thinking "NOT. IMPRESSED." while he was talking.

And then four weeks later, I am looking back at it knowing I was right, because ALL of the kids in this class are STRUGGLING with it. This instructor is insisting that these children have calculators. Uhm.. hello? My 8th grader needs to be learning her math problems by hand FIRST. A calculator is a TOOL that is brought into play AFTER the children have already learned how to do it! But no. Bring in the computers and calculators, don't teach the children to think.. no, no, must not have that, that would be a threat to the current status quo, if the children thought they were allowed to question things........... or THINK.

Anyway. Turning off the rant lol -- it just got me thinking back to when I was in school. And I am a blackboard baby. We learned on the blackboard, and later on an overhead projector, but never a computer. LOL...
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~Geni-chan Jan 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My intermediate school and some of the classrooms in my middle school have chalkboards. But they're just used to write the agenda down on or whatever. My school uses SmartBoards or something like that, I have no idea what they're called. Or we use iPads because of a grant the city gave us last year.
And my math teachers tell us not to have calculators at all unless they say we can. c: They're smart people.
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*Childe-Of-Fyre Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sounds to me like the math instructors are, yes. My daughter's school, the math teachers are all insisting on calculators to do the kinds of things I learned by hand in school, and then they wonder why the kids aren't learning their math. LOL
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~Geni-chan Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My district had a requirement that we learned long division by hand and all kinds of long mathematical equations. We worked on multi-step equations in the 7th grade for weeks until we perfected it; BY HAND. With no calcs.
By what I'm hearing, you should switch your daughter into a different district. I go to a public school, and they're requiring and expecting all these things from us. c: Public education = not as trashy as people think.
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*Childe-Of-Fyre Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My daughter IS in the local public school. And the only way for me to switch her to a different district, would be if we sold our house and moved into that district. We cannot just send her to a different district. Not unless we want to pay thousands of dollars each year in tuition that we cannot afford to pay.

I am a product of the public school system myself, and yes, I had to do all of that as well. So it's not the entire public school system, no, but every district in my area is like this. All of the surrounding ones are just as bad as the one she's in now. We would have to move to another part of the state just to get her into a halfway decent school district.

And that is why she just will be getting pulled out at the end of this year. She will be home-schooled from here out, it's that simple.
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~Geni-chan Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh...well, at least it's a sensible choice for your daughter next year. c:
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My school only has blackboards :p
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*Childe-Of-Fyre Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really? Cool. :D Maybe it's a regional/richness of the school district thing then. My daughter's school has blackboards, but they are literally not used... they're just up in the front wall of the classroom like.. like museum pieces or something. They're all using computers to teach with in her district... all the classrooms.
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~runawaymintyg3 Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i grew up with blackboards and whiteboards in grade school, but when I started middle school a few years ago , we had smart boards which were a BITCH to use
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*Dray-of-Ice Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yep~
And yeah, the whole calculator deal, My teacher Yelled at me for not having one. LOL
I refuse to use it. XD
I can see what I've done, and, if i want to check things, THEN I'll use it. :/
also, using this stamp~
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*Childe-Of-Fyre Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually do not ALLOW my daughter to use one except for the exact situation you describe. And when her instructors yelled at her for not having one, she rightfully told them to talk to her mother. I told her to make me the bad guy if she has to, but she can tell them to come talk to ME. lol

Only ONE of her teachers ever called me to complain at me about it, and he hung up the phone pretty quickly when I pointed out that learning with a calculator at the start means she is actually NOT learning the math at all, just how to punch numbers into a tool. In other words, making the kids use a calculator at the beginning, is just so the teacher has an easier time of it and doesn't actually have to TEACH the children HOW to do the equations.

He dropped the subject pretty quickly. Never tried to complain at her again about it. Sorry, but my child needs to learn the equations, not just how to punch numbers into a little miniature computer. Any machine is only as good as the human who programs it...
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